Loss of Decimals Upon Link to Access

Hi. I have an Access DB that's linked to a SQL DB view. The SQL view is base
d
on a table which has some data types as float. I created a view on the table
.
The view shows me units of a product divided by units of all products. The
results are expressed in the view as decimals. So, for example, .499857. Thi
s
is what I want. However, when I link the view to Access, all of my decimals
become zero. For example, .499857 becomes 0. I'm completely confounded. Any
suggestions would be fantastic! Thanks!If the SQL view is correct and you can use Query Analyzer to
view the results and they are as expected then this is more
of any MS Access issue. Make sure you have the latest Jet
service pack installed on the client.
But this is more of an Access issue so you would want to try
posting in one of the Access newsgroups. When posting your
question, be sure to include versions (version of SQL
Server, version of Access), what service packs you are
using.
-Sue
On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:11:02 -0700, Mike C
<MikeC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Hi. I have an Access DB that's linked to a SQL DB view. The SQL view is bas
ed
>on a table which has some data types as float. I created a view on the tabl
e.
>The view shows me units of a product divided by units of all products. The
>results are expressed in the view as decimals. So, for example, .499857. Th
is
>is what I want. However, when I link the view to Access, all of my decimals
>become zero. For example, .499857 becomes 0. I'm completely confounded. Any
>suggestions would be fantastic! Thanks!

Losing Temp Tables Between Tasks

I have a control flow setup with 5 tasks.

1. Create Temp Table (Execute SQL)
2. Load Temp Table (Execute SQL)
3. Data Flow Task using the temp table
4. Data Flow Task using the temp table
5. Drop Temp Table (Execute SQL)

Tasks 3 & 4 are currently setup to run parallel/concurrently - meaning they both branch directly off of task #2. They both also lead to task #5. Also, my connection manager is set to retain its connection.

Here's the problem. When executing this flow, task #3 will sometimes fail, other times it will succeed - without me changing anything between runs (I simply end debugging and run it again). When it does fail it is always because it cannot find the temp table. One thing to note is that task #4 (running at the same time as #3 and using the same temp table) always finishes first because it does quite a bit less work. Last thing to note: if I set up task 4 to run after 3 it works everytime, but of course it takes much longer for the total package to execute.

How is it that the task can find the temp table on some runs, but not on others? If this is just quirky behavior that I am going to have to live with for the time being, is there a way to force a task to re-run X number of times before giving up and moving on?

Thanks,
David Martin

Temp tables are only guaranteed to remain in existence as long as they are referenced. Is it possible that the connection is being dropped and reopened by SSIS for some reason between tasks?

Or that there is some time during the processing where Sql Server cannot detect the temp table is still being referrenced, so drops it even if the connection is still open?

Seems like using temp tables is risky if you don't have full and explicit control over their existence. I want to use them also but not if I cannot guarantee they will be there when I need them!

|||

Make sure the "RetainSameConnection" property is set to "True" for the connection. This will allow the Execute SQL tasks to share the connection so the temp table can be accessed.

Frank

sql

Losing rows from file to destination table - need troubleshooting help

I am losing data from time to time and can not figure out where the rows are vanishing to. In essence, I have 5 files that I process. The processing occurs on a daily basis by one SQLAgent job that calls 5 individual packages, each doing a different piece of work.

I stage each file to a temp table, then perform some minor transformations, then union the rowsets from each file before landing to another temporary table. A subsequent package performs additional transformations that apply to the entire dataset, before inserting them to their final destination. Along the way, I reject some records based on the business rules applied. Each package in the entire Job is logging(OnError, TaskFailed, Pre and Post execute). Their are no errors being generated. No rows are being rejected to my reject tables either.

Without getting into the specific transforms, etc. being used in this complex process, has anyone seen similar unexplained behaviour? I've not been able to identify any pattern, except that it is usually only 1 or 2 of the record types (specific to a source file), that will ever not be loaded. No patterns around volumes for specific source files. There are some lookups and dedupes, however I've seen the records 'drop off' before reaching these transforms. I have noticed I had my final desination load not using fast load. However sometimes the records disappear before even getting to my final staging table which is inserting using fast load. I am going to turn on logging the pipelinerowssent event. Any other suggestions for troubleshooting/tracking down these disappearing records?

Thanks

Couple more clarifications:

I have run the same files thru manually in debug mode to find that I can watch all the rows thru the entire process.

We have seen strange behaviour in running packages as scheduled jobs thru SQLAgent

Utilizes unions which seem a bit klunky.

|||

Joe,

We have seen similar problems on my current project so yesterday we turned on OnPipelineRowsSent logging.

Another thing we have done is output the data from each transform component to a file for later examination. The MULTICAST transform is invaluable in order to do this.

as yet we haven't found out what is going on. Its strange.

-Jamie

|||

I'm not sure I would use the adjective strange, but..

In trying to troubleshoot this process, I first changed the union tranform that was taking 6 input streams, and busted it out to 5 individual waterfalling unions each with 2 input streams. No change in behaviour.

I then changed the package that moves this data, by adding in multicasts to output to a file after every transform along the way up to the final destination, after the 5 unions. Just by adding the multicasts into the flow has resulted in no rows vanishing for the daily loads for the past week. Unfortunately, I don't have time to really troubleshoot further, but I think that this demonstrates that there is indeed a serious bug here. I still suspect it has to do with the union transform. I am quite scared for anyone else's shop that has decided to standardize ETL to this tool, as we have. As developers, we have only time to test our code, not testing that the native tool functionality is behaving as expected. In addition ,to have to monitor on a regular basis that it is performing properly, is not acceptable.

Hoping this problem magically went away with SP1....

JH

Losing Format When Exporting to PDF

I have a report with a table. Some of the table header columns are
multi-worded and wrap on to a second line. For the table header columns that
are not multi-worded, I want the text to appear on the second line and not
the first line which is the default.
If I use the vbscript function â'vbcrlfâ', it renders perfectly in HTML.
However, I want to render in PDF and for some reason when it renders in PDF
the renderer is ignoring that particular formatting and so the single-worded
column text appears on the first line.
Any ideaâ's?
--
MikeOn Dec 10, 1:49 pm, Mike DeYoung
<MikeDeYo...@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> I have a report with a table. Some of the table header columns are
> multi-worded and wrap on to a second line. For the table header columns that
> are not multi-worded, I want the text to appear on the second line and not
> the first line which is the default.
> If I use the vbscript function "vbcrlf", it renders perfectly in HTML.
> However, I want to render in PDF and for some reason when it renders in PDF
> the renderer is ignoring that particular formatting and so the single-worded
> column text appears on the first line.
> Any idea's?
> --
> Mike
If I'm understand you correctly, you should be able to set the
vertical alignment of the table header column via selecting the header
row on the left-hand-side of the table control, then select F4 (for
the Properties window) and to the right of 'Vertical Align' select
'Bottom.' Hope this helps.
Regards,
Enrique Martinez
Sr. Software Consultant|||Thank you Enrique.
--
Mike
"EMartinez" wrote:
> On Dec 10, 1:49 pm, Mike DeYoung
> <MikeDeYo...@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > I have a report with a table. Some of the table header columns are
> > multi-worded and wrap on to a second line. For the table header columns that
> > are not multi-worded, I want the text to appear on the second line and not
> > the first line which is the default.
> >
> > If I use the vbscript function "vbcrlf", it renders perfectly in HTML.
> > However, I want to render in PDF and for some reason when it renders in PDF
> > the renderer is ignoring that particular formatting and so the single-worded
> > column text appears on the first line.
> >
> > Any idea's?
> >
> > --
> > Mike
>
> If I'm understand you correctly, you should be able to set the
> vertical alignment of the table header column via selecting the header
> row on the left-hand-side of the table control, then select F4 (for
> the Properties window) and to the right of 'Vertical Align' select
> 'Bottom.' Hope this helps.
> Regards,
> Enrique Martinez
> Sr. Software Consultant
>|||On Dec 11, 7:31 am, Mike DeYoung
<MikeDeYo...@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> Thank you Enrique.
> --
> Mike
> "EMartinez" wrote:
> > On Dec 10, 1:49 pm, Mike DeYoung
> > <MikeDeYo...@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > I have a report with a table. Some of the table header columns are
> > > multi-worded and wrap on to a second line. For the table header columns that
> > > are not multi-worded, I want the text to appear on the second line and not
> > > the first line which is the default.
> > > If I use the vbscript function "vbcrlf", it renders perfectly in HTML.
> > > However, I want to render in PDF and for some reason when it renders in PDF
> > > the renderer is ignoring that particular formatting and so the single-worded
> > > column text appears on the first line.
> > > Any idea's?
> > > --
> > > Mike
> > If I'm understand you correctly, you should be able to set the
> > vertical alignment of the table header column via selecting the header
> > row on the left-hand-side of the table control, then select F4 (for
> > the Properties window) and to the right of 'Vertical Align' select
> > 'Bottom.' Hope this helps.
> > Regards,
> > Enrique Martinez
> > Sr. Software Consultant
You're welcome. Let me know if I can be of further assistance.
Regards,
Enrique Martinez
Sr. Software Consultant

Losing decimal places on Sql Svr to Sql Svr data flow

Hi,

I have a staging table that has a float [DT_R8] column that shows 4 decimal places. When I use an OLE DB Source referencing that table to go to an OLE DB Destination referencing a table with an identical column the data gets rounded to a single decimal place. Needless to say this is really messing with the values.

I can see the Scale property in the Advanced Editor for OLE DB Destination but I cannot change it. Same for the OLE DB Source.

Oh, and if I do an insert using SQL in Management Studio I have no problem getting the 4 decimal places in. For example:

Insert into table2
(Col1, Col2)
select Col1, Col2 from table1

Moves all the data and keeps the 4 decimal places.

How do I do this without losing those decimals?

Thanks
John
Do you have the SSIS datatypes set to DT_R8? Double click on the green line coming out of the OLE DB source and in the metadata tab, what's the data type set to?

(Just asking the perhaps obvious question for completeness.)|||The datatype for that column is DT_R8 in the OLE DB Source (both External and Output columns), OLE DB Destination (both External and Input columns) and in the green line metadata.

John
|||Works fine for me. Maybe you've got some old metadata stuck somewhere. Try putting a Data Viewer on the pipeline at various points (if there are various points) to see what it looks like in flight. Maybe you need to delete and recreate some components or the whole data flow to get it straightened out. What method/query are you using to pull the data from the source? What type of connections are you using?
|||While recreating the data flow, I checked the view and it appears that the problem is happening just before the package executes.

Thanks for all the help.

lopp for insert into

Hello,

I have 10 tables (T1Orj,T2Orj,…T10Orj) and I need to find modified rows from each table and insert them to T1Bak, T2Bak, …T10Bak. Although original and bak tables have the common fields , the original tables have more fields than bak tables, and T1Orj, T2Orj, … T10Orj tables have different table structures.

I can go head and write a insert into query for each table, I am just wondering Is there any way I can do this in a loop for all tables?

You can use a dataadapter to do this:DataSet ds =newDataSet();

SqlDataAdapter adp =newSqlDataAdapter("select * from authors; select * from sales","server=srv;Integrated Security=true;database=pubs");

adp.Fill(ds);

In this case the dataset ends up with two tables,
one for authors and one for sales.

If you want you can then go and rename them, as they end up with names like "Table", "Table1", "Table2", etc.

but they come out in the order you put in ....

then you can do

loosing values when load from text file

When loading a table in a data flow from a text file that contains non-null float values, I am seeing erratic and inconsistent results. I am presently using SQL Server Destination in a data flow.

- With low volumnes of data, less that 50,000 rows, no problems

- But with higher volumnes, 2,000,000+ rows, I get different results depending on how I run the package. If I run is directly (right-click and click on Execute), I get the expected result.

But if I use SQL Server Agent to run the package, half of the values are lost and nulls are loaded instead. I have inspected the into text file and there are few rows with null for the column.

Any help would be appreciated!

Greg

>>>- With low volumnes of data, less that 50,000 rows, no problems

Did you have success using both BIDS and SQL Agent for the 50K load?

>>>- But with higher volumnes, 2,000,000+ rows, I get different results depending on how I run the package.

While using SQL Agent did you chose the Command subsystem and use dtexec or the SSIS subsystem?

Loosing SQL connection while running ASP

We are running an ASP application. That is fairly simple.

It selects from one table (15.000 records), and updates into another table.
But when we execute the ASP script, it reports the following error, after
completing between 70%-80%. This varies each time it runs

"Microsoft OLE DB Provider for SQL Server error '80004005'
[DBNETLIB][ConnectionOpen (Connect()).]SQL Server does not exist or access
denied. "

The application is running in ths following server environment

Server 1

Fujitsu-Siemens RX300 Server (Dual 2,8 Xeon, 1 Gb Ram, 72 Gb SCSI Raid 1)

Windows 2003 Web Server (IIS)

Server 2

Fujitsu-Siemens RX300 Server (Dual 2,8 Xeon, 1 Gb Ram, 72 Gb SCSI Raid 1)

Windows 2003 Standart server

Microsoft SQL Server 2000Jesper Carstensen (jesper@.swush.com) writes:
> We are running an ASP application. That is fairly simple.
> It selects from one table (15.000 records), and updates into another
> table. But when we execute the ASP script, it reports the following
> error, after completing between 70%-80%. This varies each time it runs
>
> "Microsoft OLE DB Provider for SQL Server error '80004005'
> [DBNETLIB][ConnectionOpen (Connect()).]SQL Server does not exist or access
> denied. "

So how exactly do you retrieve the rows and submit the updates? For
retrieval I would recommend client-side cursors.

Is the table you update on the same server as the one you read from?
In such case, the best may be to have all the updating login in a stored
procedure, unless the logic is too complex for SQL.

--
Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, sommar@.algonet.se

Books Online for SQL Server SP3 at
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/techin.../2000/books.asp|||We are seeing that EXACT same error popup randomly on our web server
running Windows 2003 Server. Here's our setup:

Web Server 1 - Windows 2000 Server - Latest SP, MDAC, All Updates, etc.
Web Server 2 - Windows 2003 Server - All updates
SQL Server - Windows 2003 Server, SQL Server 2003 SP3a, All Updates

Now, we used to have both our web servers be 2000 server. We've
recently updated the 2nd one to be 2003 server. Ever since we have
been getting that same error (below) at random times. We seem to think
that it may fail under heavy load.

"Microsoft OLE DB Provider for SQL Server error '80004005'
[DBNETLIB][ConnectionOpen (Connect()).]SQL Server does not exist or
access denied. "

We've done just about everything we've seen suggested here in the
groups and on Microsoft's site without any success. We can't nail down
what is causing this problem. If ANYBODY can help point us in the
right direction we'd greatly apprecaite it. What's odd is that I've
seen many posts reporting this same problem without any solutions
given. It seems that maybe there's some kind of issue with 2003 that
hasn't been documented or exposed yet.|||This would be my checklist.. (1 and 2 are probably ruled out given that the
2000 server works with no problem)

one clue you may have to help you is the amount of time the web server takes
to throw that error when you access the page. Is it trying to connect and
then giving up after a few seconds, or is it failing immediately without
attempting to handshake with the server.

1) Check the DB server loading, increase connection timeout if its heavy for
extended periods.
2) continuously ping the DB server from the web server(s) to see if there
are connection outages/packet loss.
3) Try a different(older) version of MDAC on the web server, fiddle with the
client settings.
4) Try varying the connection type (SQL logon Windows logon Named Pipes
TCP/IP)
5) Run IIS under a different isolation level, fiddle with the application
settings
7) trap the error in the connection code and attempt a re-connect (3 strikes
and your out).
6) try something else ...
8) get the 2000 server back out

hope you find a solution to the problem, let us know if you do. :)

Mr Tea
http://mr-tea.blogspot.com

"Don Kitchen" <donkitchen@.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1106327170.237818.86870@.c13g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> We are seeing that EXACT same error popup randomly on our web server
> running Windows 2003 Server. Here's our setup:
> Web Server 1 - Windows 2000 Server - Latest SP, MDAC, All Updates, etc.
> Web Server 2 - Windows 2003 Server - All updates
> SQL Server - Windows 2003 Server, SQL Server 2003 SP3a, All Updates
> Now, we used to have both our web servers be 2000 server. We've
> recently updated the 2nd one to be 2003 server. Ever since we have
> been getting that same error (below) at random times. We seem to think
> that it may fail under heavy load.
> "Microsoft OLE DB Provider for SQL Server error '80004005'
> [DBNETLIB][ConnectionOpen (Connect()).]SQL Server does not exist or
> access denied. "
> We've done just about everything we've seen suggested here in the
> groups and on Microsoft's site without any success. We can't nail down
> what is causing this problem. If ANYBODY can help point us in the
> right direction we'd greatly apprecaite it. What's odd is that I've
> seen many posts reporting this same problem without any solutions
> given. It seems that maybe there's some kind of issue with 2003 that
> hasn't been documented or exposed yet.|||"Don Kitchen" <donkitchen@.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1106327170.237818.86870@.c13g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> We are seeing that EXACT same error popup randomly on our web server
> running Windows 2003 Server. Here's our setup:
> Web Server 1 - Windows 2000 Server - Latest SP, MDAC, All Updates,
etc.
> Web Server 2 - Windows 2003 Server - All updates
> SQL Server - Windows 2003 Server, SQL Server 2003 SP3a, All Updates
> Now, we used to have both our web servers be 2000 server. We've
> recently updated the 2nd one to be 2003 server. Ever since we have
> been getting that same error (below) at random times. We seem to
think
> that it may fail under heavy load.
> "Microsoft OLE DB Provider for SQL Server error '80004005'
> [DBNETLIB][ConnectionOpen (Connect()).]SQL Server does not exist or
> access denied. "
> We've done just about everything we've seen suggested here in the
> groups and on Microsoft's site without any success. We can't nail
down
> what is causing this problem. If ANYBODY can help point us in the
> right direction we'd greatly apprecaite it. What's odd is that I've
> seen many posts reporting this same problem without any solutions
> given. It seems that maybe there's some kind of issue with 2003
that
> hasn't been documented or exposed yet.

I've seen the same problem and I think it's specifically a memory
problem. It may be a more general "resource" issue correlated with
memory but it is hard to pin down.|||I'm happy to report that we have found the fix to our problems.
Without going into too much detail here, I can say that 2 registry keys
that we created in Windows 2003 fixed the problem.

See these two threads for more info about it:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group...57109e74649c7c8

http://groups-beta.google.com/group...075084961f5cdb7

Loosing SQL connecting while running ASP

We are running a fairly simple ASP application, that connect to a MS SQL ser
ver.
It selects from one table (15.000 records), and updates into another table.
But when we execute the ASP script, it reports the following error, after co
mpleting between 70%-80%. This varies each time it runs
“Microsoft OLE DB Provider for SQL Server error '80004005' [DBNETLIB][ConnectionOpen
(Connect()).]SQL Server does not exist or access denied. “
The application is running in ths following environment
Server 1
Fujitsu-Siemens RX300 Server(Dual 2,8 Xeon, 1 Gb Ram, 72 Gb SCSI Raid 1)
Windows 2003 Web Server
Server 2
Fujitsu-Siemens RX300 Server(Dual 2,8 Xeon, 1 Gb Ram, 72 Gb SCSI Raid 1)
Windows 2003 standart server
Microsoft SQL server 2000I would recommend getting network traces on both the IIS machine and the
SQL Server while the ASP page is being called. The error you posted is
related to a new connection, not an existing query. Increasing the
Logintimeout in code may help, but it sounds like either a coding issue or
Name Resolution problem.
Thanks,
Kevin McDonnell
Microsoft Corporation
This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights.|||Same problem after installing IIS6.0,
after a lot of tries, I have switched DB connection to ODBC,
I have the problem with OLEDB, I did not face the problem with ODBC.|||

quote:

---

Originally posted by mrgray
Same problem after installing IIS6.0,
after a lot of tries, I have switched DB connection to ODBC,
I have the problem with OLEDB, I did not face the problem with ODBC.

---

hi guys , any leads with the problem ? because i am stuck with this issue to
o hosting my script and MS SQL on seperate server
i am also running win2k3 and IIS6
DEAD END

Loosing Bold when exporting to Excel

Hi,
I have a report that bolds font in a table cell based on an expression.
This works fine when I browse the report in reporting services. When I
export the report to Excel - all of the bold text returns to normal weight
text. Any ideas to get around this?
Thanks,
MelissaMelissa, this seems to be a hot topic this week!
I've seen three other posts on this already. This is the same as the
Excel font colour from expressions problem.
Whatever formatting the first cell evaluates too, the whole column is
set too. As far as I can tell, there is no way round this.
I've raised it as a bug with MS
Chris
Melissa wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a report that bolds font in a table cell based on an
> expression. This works fine when I browse the report in reporting
> services. When I export the report to Excel - all of the bold text
> returns to normal weight text. Any ideas to get around this?
> Thanks,
> Melissa|||Thanks Chris for the response!
Melissa
"Chris McGuigan" wrote:
> Melissa, this seems to be a hot topic this week!
> I've seen three other posts on this already. This is the same as the
> Excel font colour from expressions problem.
> Whatever formatting the first cell evaluates too, the whole column is
> set too. As far as I can tell, there is no way round this.
> I've raised it as a bug with MS
> Chris
> Melissa wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a report that bolds font in a table cell based on an
> > expression. This works fine when I browse the report in reporting
> > services. When I export the report to Excel - all of the bold text
> > returns to normal weight text. Any ideas to get around this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Melissa
>

LOOPING UPDATE

Hi
I just require a bit of guidance on a SQL query I am writing. I am updating
a table with values, and the first field is a TYPE field, I set this to A
and then populate fields 2-15 with a variety of default updates and values
from other tables, I then do a second insert whreeby I set the same TYPE
field to B and update fields 2-5 and then the unique fields 16-20.
At the moment my second update has two issues;
1. It sets EVERY type to B (although it correctly doubles the amount of
entries in the table)
2. The B entries are appended to the bottom of the table, ideally I want the
table structure to be ABABABAB etc
Any help to a SQL newbie appreciated!> 1. It sets EVERY type to B (although it correctly doubles the amount of
> entries in the table)
Sounds like your WHERE clause may be at fault. Could you post a CREATE TABLE
statement and the UPDATE/INSERT statements so that we can reproduce your
problem.

> 2. The B entries are appended to the bottom of the table, ideally I want
the
> table structure to be ABABABAB etc
Tables have no logical ordering. If you want to see the results in a
particular order then use ORDER BY on a SELECT statement when you query the
table. A clustered index orders data in physical storage but not necessarily
when you query the table.
David Portas
SQL Server MVP
--|||Hi David
I have rewritten the part of the routine with a separate WHERE clause on the
type field at the end of the update and this seems to work so thank you.
I have several more loops to write, I will then try the Order by at the end
of the routine.
Thank you very very much for your quick and informative response, it really
is appreciated.
Steve
"David Portas" <REMOVE_BEFORE_REPLYING_dportas@.acm.org> wrote in message
news:8ZKdncKsYuPgDrHdRVn-uA@.giganews.com...
> Sounds like your WHERE clause may be at fault. Could you post a CREATE
TABLE
> statement and the UPDATE/INSERT statements so that we can reproduce your
> problem.
>
> the
> Tables have no logical ordering. If you want to see the results in a
> particular order then use ORDER BY on a SELECT statement when you query
the
> table. A clustered index orders data in physical storage but not
necessarily
> when you query the table.
> --
> David Portas
> SQL Server MVP
> --
>sql

LOOPING UPDATE

Hi
I just require a bit of guidance on a SQL query I am writing. I am updating
a table with values, and the first field is a TYPE field, I set this to A
and then populate fields 2-15 with a variety of default updates and values
from other tables, I then do a second insert whreeby I set the same TYPE
field to B and update fields 2-5 and then the unique fields 16-20.
At the moment my second update has two issues;
1. It sets EVERY type to B (although it correctly doubles the amount of
entries in the table)
2. The B entries are appended to the bottom of the table, ideally I want the
table structure to be ABABABAB etc
Any help to a SQL newbie appreciated!> 1. It sets EVERY type to B (although it correctly doubles the amount of
> entries in the table)
Sounds like your WHERE clause may be at fault. Could you post a CREATE TABLE
statement and the UPDATE/INSERT statements so that we can reproduce your
problem.
> 2. The B entries are appended to the bottom of the table, ideally I want
the
> table structure to be ABABABAB etc
Tables have no logical ordering. If you want to see the results in a
particular order then use ORDER BY on a SELECT statement when you query the
table. A clustered index orders data in physical storage but not necessarily
when you query the table.
--
David Portas
SQL Server MVP
--|||Hi David
I have rewritten the part of the routine with a separate WHERE clause on the
type field at the end of the update and this seems to work so thank you.
I have several more loops to write, I will then try the Order by at the end
of the routine.
Thank you very very much for your quick and informative response, it really
is appreciated.
Steve
"David Portas" <REMOVE_BEFORE_REPLYING_dportas@.acm.org> wrote in message
news:8ZKdncKsYuPgDrHdRVn-uA@.giganews.com...
> > 1. It sets EVERY type to B (although it correctly doubles the amount of
> > entries in the table)
> Sounds like your WHERE clause may be at fault. Could you post a CREATE
TABLE
> statement and the UPDATE/INSERT statements so that we can reproduce your
> problem.
> > 2. The B entries are appended to the bottom of the table, ideally I want
> the
> > table structure to be ABABABAB etc
> Tables have no logical ordering. If you want to see the results in a
> particular order then use ORDER BY on a SELECT statement when you query
the
> table. A clustered index orders data in physical storage but not
necessarily
> when you query the table.
> --
> David Portas
> SQL Server MVP
> --
>

looping to get correct data

I'm a newbie so I'll explain what I'm trying to achieve the best I can ...

I'd like to essentially loop through a SQL table to display the correct results. The workflow is the user query's the database and returns records (by property ID). In the return there are duplicate records being returned - in this case, two property owners returned with the same property ID.

How would I loop through the SQL statement in the application (code) to identify when the property id's are the same and display only one owner for that property?

Thanks!
You could do looping by using cursors by usually you should be able to formulate the query in a required way and it will be more performant.
How does the query look like? If it is simple enough you might achieve the result by using DISTINCT argument of the SELECT clause. Have a look at http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms176104.aspx|||

I agree with Anton, if you formulate your query correctly you should not have to do this work on the client side. This also reduces internet traffic which could additionally speed up your end-to-end performance. If you could formulate the goal of your query as well as the structure of your tables and provide your current query, we could likely help you to write a SQL query that does the trick without this overhead.

Thanks,

John (MSFT)

looping to get correct data

I'm a newbie so I'll explain what I'm trying to achieve the best I can ...

I'd like to essentially loop through a SQL table to display the correct results. The workflow is the user query's the database and returns records (by property ID). In the return there are duplicate records being returned - in this case, two property owners returned with the same property ID.

How would I loop through the SQL statement in the application (code) to identify when the property id's are the same and display only one owner for that property?

Thanks!
You could do looping by using cursors by usually you should be able to formulate the query in a required way and it will be more performant.
How does the query look like? If it is simple enough you might achieve the result by using DISTINCT argument of the SELECT clause. Have a look at http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms176104.aspx|||

I agree with Anton, if you formulate your query correctly you should not have to do this work on the client side. This also reduces internet traffic which could additionally speed up your end-to-end performance. If you could formulate the goal of your query as well as the structure of your tables and provide your current query, we could likely help you to write a SQL query that does the trick without this overhead.

Thanks,

John (MSFT)

looping thru a table and updating the contents

Hello, Its hard trying to explain this.

I have 3 tables

Table 1 is where the users are stored, each user has a username and a userrank

Table 2 is where the points that decides the userrank are stored

Table 3 contains the available userranks like this

Table 1 (user_list) looks briefly like this:
username nvarchar(20),
userrank int, -- Reference to Table3 id
... alot more fields

Table 2 (settings_profile) looks like this:
username nvarchar(20),
total_active_points int,
... some more fields

Table 3 (data_ranks) looks like this:
id int primary key auto inc,
rankname nvarchar(20),
min_pts int,
max_pts int

Points get added to table 2 whenever they do something that generates points on the site. Points also get withdrawn every 7 days, so a user can only collect points for 7 days, on the 8th day, all points he earned on the 1st day is reduced from the current points with this code:

WHILE(SELECT @.username= username, @.id= id, @.temp1= ap_sentmails, @.temp2= ap_createdthreads, @.temp3= ap_createdanswers, @.temp4= ap_signguestbook, @.temp5= ap_blogcomment, @.temp6= ap_createblogentry, @.temp7= ap_profilefirsttime, @.temp8= ap_profilephoto, @.temp9= ap_activateguestbook, @.temp10= ap_addnewfriend, @.temp11= ap_superguruvote, @.temp12= ap_forumtopicvote, @.temp13= ap_labervote, @.temp14= ap_funstuffitemvote, @.temp15= ap_movievote, @.temp16= ap_actorvote, @.temp17= ap_money_newWHERE(created<Dateadd(dd,-7, @.todaysdate))
BEGIN
SET @.sum= 0
SET @.sum= @.temp1+ @.temp2+ @.temp3+ @.temp4+ @.temp5+ @.temp6+ @.temp7+ @.temp8+ @.temp9+ @.temp10+ @.temp11+ @.temp12+ @.temp13+ @.temp14+ @.temp15+ @.temp16+ @.temp17
UPDATE settings_profileSET total_active_points= total_active_points- @.sumWHERE(username= @.username)
DELETEFROM konto_daylistWHERE(id= @.id)
END

Now my question is this, i want to loop thru the table A, collect all usernames inside of it, then run it against table b and table c to determine the current rank of the user.
Something like this...

DECLARE @.username nvarchar(20)
DECLARE @.pts int, @.rank int

...something that starts a loop thru table A (user_list) and get the username into @.username...

SELECT @.pts =total_active_points FROM settings_profile WHERE (username = @.username)
-- Determine the rank here, by compairing the points the user have against the pointstabel in table data_ranks
SELECT @.rank = id FROM data_ranks WHERE (pts_min => @.pts AND pts_max < @.pts)
UPDATE user_list SET rank = @.rank WHERE (username = @.username)

...next persion in the loop...

This SP runs once a day and will first reduce the points from 8days ago, then it will run thru all the users and determine their new rank...

But how do i loop thru all the users? with a cursor?

I don't have time to write this for you, but here's the line of attack to use:

Create and test a query that computes the the correct score for each user.

then, issue an update in this format:

update settings_profile

set total_active_points = ( the query from above where settings_profile.username = other_table.username)

|||

Hi, i dont truly understand what you meant. I can compute the score for each user If i have their username, thats why i need to create a loop that loops thru every post in table A, so that i can update every single post with the rank they earned from the points. I need to find someway to loop thru all posts.

|||

No, you do not need to write a loop thru the users.

This is because the SQL Update statement provides an implied loop for you.

Example:

createtable xxx(idint, textvaluevarchar(20))

insertinto xxxvalues(1,'Nikki')

insertinto xxxvalues(2,'John')

update xxxset textvalue='Ginger'

select*from xxx

You will note that every xxx record now has Ginger in the textvalue column.

The update statement IS a loop!

And, while it is processing any given xxx record, it knows the value in each of that record's columns.

I do not have to hard-code the value that will be used to set textvalue with.

I can issue a query instead.

So, let's create a new table called nametable.

createtable nametable(idint,namevarchar(20))

insertinto nametablevalues(1,'Amber')

insertinto nametablevalues(2,'Tracy')

update xxx set textvalue = (select name from nametable where nametable.id = xxx.id)

select * from xxx

Note that the name for record 1 is now Amber and the name for record 2 is now Tracy

Hope that helps clarify things.

|||

Hi,

Its working like a clock now, thanks for the explanation.

I build this line with the example code you sent, and its brilliant.

UPDATE profile_publicinfoSET userrank=(SELECT data_userrank.idFROM settings_profileINNERJOIN data_userrankON(data_userrank.pointsmin<= settings_profile.total_active_pointsAND data_userrank.pointsmax> settings_profile.total_active_points)WHERE(settings_profile.username= profile_publicinfo.username))

|||

Great!

Now all you have to do is mark the thread as answered, so other folks don't spend their time trying to help you only to find out you don't need help anymore! :)

The key to being ultra-productive with SQL is to think in terms of "sets of data" instead of looping thru records of data one at a time.

|||

Then i just have to ask, is it possible to update several records with a IF statement?

Like this,

UPDATE clubsSET isactive=(IF(clubs_account.money-clubs_account.cost< 0SELECT 1) ELSE (SELECT 0)FROM clubs_account)

Thats money - expenses, if its less then 0, return a 1 otherwise return a 0

|||

The SQL equivalent of an IF statement is a CASE statement.

But don't try to write it the way your if statement was coded.

Try this instead:

update clubs
set isactive = (select case clubs_account.money - clubs_account.cost < 0
when true then 1
else 0
end case
from clubs_account
where clubs_account.? = clubs.?
)

|||

Looks very good, but i just keeps getting an error when i tried it (i also tried to put () around the math calculations, but i still get the same result),

The clubs.inactive is a bit field if that is of any importance.

UPDATE clubsSET isactive=(SELECTCASE club_konto.money- club_konto.cost< 0WHEN trueTHEN 1ELSE 0ENDCASEFROM club_kontoWHERE club_konto.clubid= clubs.id)

Incorrect syntax near '<'.

|||

bit fields are 1s and 0s, not true and false.

Also, I work in too many different languages. :( It's END, not END CASE.

createtable clubs(idint, isactivebit)

createtable club_konto( clubidint,moneyint, costint)

insertinto clubsvalues(1,1)

insertinto clubsvalues(2,1)

insertinto clubsvalues(3,0)

insertinto clubsvalues(4,0)

insertinto club_kontovalues(1,50,10)

insertinto club_kontovalues(2,10,50)

insertinto club_kontovalues(3,50,10)

insertinto club_kontovalues(4,10,50)

select*from clubs

select*from club_konto

UPDATE clubs

SET isactive=(SELECTCASEWHEN club_konto.money- club_konto.cost< 0THEN 1ELSE 0END

FROM club_kontoWHERE club_konto.clubid= clubs.id)

select*from clubs

I have to caution you about this - the select statement used to populate the isactive column must NOT return more than one row of data.

If it can return more than one row, you need to change it so it only returns one row. So, if there can be two or more club_konto records per club, the query above will not work. Instead you would need it to be something like this:

UPDATE clubs

SET isactive=(SELECTCASEWHEN sum(club_konto.money)- sum(club_konto.cost)< 0THEN 1ELSE 0END

FROM club_kontoWHERE club_konto.clubid= clubs.id)

|||

I see that i need to learn alot more about how data is handeled inside MS SQL 2005, its working perfect with your example,

Thanks alot

(I have afew more SPs with While loops that i have to go thru now and see if i can upgrade them according to the new update way.)

looping through XML with xquery

Hello,

for example:

declare @.xml xml
select @.xml = (select * from table for xml raw, elements)

... now i want to iterate through @.xml and get the values from field ID:

declare @.id int, @.x int, @.y int
select @.x = @.xml.value('data(count(/*))','int')
set @.y = 1
while @.y <= @.x begin
select @.id = @.xml.value('data(/row/ID)[' + cast(@.y as varchar) + ']','int')
set @.y * @.y + 1
end

... this is not working because for value() only string literals are allowed, so how can i do this?

thank you,
Helmut

You are on the right track, but you need to use the sql:variable function to do this. sql:variable gives you access to variables and parameters in scope.

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms188254.aspx

so you should be able to write your query as:

select @.id = @.xml.value('data(/row/ID)[sql:variable(@.y)]','int')

This also has the added advantage of avoiding sql or xquery injection.

|||Superb, works perfect!

thank you very much,
Helmut
|||SELECT SearchCriteriaXML.value('data(//ColumnName)[sql:variable(@.i)]','varchar(100)')
FROM SearchColumn INNER JOIN SearchCriteria ON SearchColumn.SearchCriteriaId = SearchCriteria.Id
WHERE (SearchCriteria.Id = 1) AND (SearchColumn.Id = 1)

I'm Getting below error for above query

Msg 2225, Level 16, State 1, Line 20
XQuery [SearchCriteria.SearchCriteriaXML.value()]: A string literal was expected
sql

looping through xml document with OpenXML

Hi,
I am trying to compare records from an XML document to records in a table.
If the records in the XML document are not in the table then I wish to
insert those records.
How do I loop through the XML document within a store proc?
Has anyone done this who can provide a sample.
Thanks
Rather than looping, it'd probably be more efficient to use a NOT IN clause.
Have a look at the following example and see if you can adapt it for your
data:
USE Northwind
GO
DECLARE @.productsDoc nvarchar(2000)
SET @.productsDoc = '
<Products>
<Product ProductID="1">
<ProductName>Chai</ProductName>
<UnitPrice>10</UnitPrice>
</Product>
<Product ProductID="101">
<ProductName>Porridge</ProductName>
<UnitPrice>16</UnitPrice>
</Product>
<Product ProductID="102">
<ProductName>Haggis</ProductName>
<UnitPrice>19</UnitPrice>
</Product>
</Products>'
DECLARE @.h integer
EXEC sp_xml_preparedocument @.h OUTPUT, @.productsDoc
SET IDENTITY_INSERT Products ON
INSERT Products (ProductID, ProductName, UnitPrice)
SELECT * FROM
OPENXML(@.h, 'Products/Product', 2)
WITH
(
ProductID integer '@.ProductID',
ProductName nvarchar(40),
UnitPrice money
)
WHERE ProductID NOT IN
(SELECT ProductID FROM Products)
SET IDENTITY_INSERT Products OFF
Hope that helps,
Graeme
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Principal Technologist
Content Master Ltd.
www.contentmaster.com
"Opa" <Opa@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Hi,
I am trying to compare records from an XML document to records in a table.
If the records in the XML document are not in the table then I wish to
insert those records.
How do I loop through the XML document within a store proc?
Has anyone done this who can provide a sample.
Thanks
|||Thanks Graeme.
Looks like your code should work and I will give it a try.
"Graeme Malcolm" wrote:

> Rather than looping, it'd probably be more efficient to use a NOT IN clause.
> Have a look at the following example and see if you can adapt it for your
> data:
> USE Northwind
> GO
> DECLARE @.productsDoc nvarchar(2000)
> SET @.productsDoc = '
> <Products>
> <Product ProductID="1">
> <ProductName>Chai</ProductName>
> <UnitPrice>10</UnitPrice>
> </Product>
> <Product ProductID="101">
> <ProductName>Porridge</ProductName>
> <UnitPrice>16</UnitPrice>
> </Product>
> <Product ProductID="102">
> <ProductName>Haggis</ProductName>
> <UnitPrice>19</UnitPrice>
> </Product>
> </Products>'
> DECLARE @.h integer
> EXEC sp_xml_preparedocument @.h OUTPUT, @.productsDoc
> SET IDENTITY_INSERT Products ON
> INSERT Products (ProductID, ProductName, UnitPrice)
> SELECT * FROM
> OPENXML(@.h, 'Products/Product', 2)
> WITH
> (
> ProductID integer '@.ProductID',
> ProductName nvarchar(40),
> UnitPrice money
> )
> WHERE ProductID NOT IN
> (SELECT ProductID FROM Products)
> SET IDENTITY_INSERT Products OFF
> Hope that helps,
> Graeme
> --
> --
> Graeme Malcolm
> Principal Technologist
> Content Master Ltd.
> www.contentmaster.com
>
> "Opa" <Opa@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8CF49B69-9E84-4B7D-96AE-C2E0FCE854E2@.microsoft.com...
> Hi,
> I am trying to compare records from an XML document to records in a table.
> If the records in the XML document are not in the table then I wish to
> insert those records.
> How do I loop through the XML document within a store proc?
> Has anyone done this who can provide a sample.
> Thanks
>
>

Looping through temp table to produce final result set

I have a temp table that is populated elsewhere in the stored proc:
@.table
(
userid,
spec1,
spec2
)
Spec1 = specialization 1, Spec2 = specialization2
Each user has two specializations, and a number of associated skills
for that specialization in a table.
now I need to loop through this table, pulling out only one userid at
a time, for my final query that displays a bunch of other things. I
have a UDF that concatenates the string of values from the different
rows from the skill table so that it displays the skills as one list:
Specialization: DBA
Skills: SQL, Data Migration, etc.
How do I loop through the @.table to pull out only one userid at a
time, then do the insert to another @.secondtable, then loop back
through to get another userid'
StacyOn Fri, 01 Jun 2007 13:05:47 -0700, CalgaryDataGrl wrote:
>I have a temp table that is populated elsewhere in the stored proc:
>@.table
> (
> userid,
> spec1,
> spec2
> )
>
>Spec1 = specialization 1, Spec2 = specialization2
>Each user has two specializations, and a number of associated skills
>for that specialization in a table.
>now I need to loop through this table, pulling out only one userid at
>a time, for my final query that displays a bunch of other things. I
>have a UDF that concatenates the string of values from the different
>rows from the skill table so that it displays the skills as one list:
>Specialization: DBA
>Skills: SQL, Data Migration, etc.
>How do I loop through the @.table to pull out only one userid at a
>time, then do the insert to another @.secondtable, then loop back
>through to get another userid'
>Stacy
Hi Stacy,
Why would you want to loop?
INSERT INTO SecondTable (UserID, ConcatSkillList)
SELECT UserID, dbo.MyUDF(UserID)
FROM FirstTable;
--
Hugo Kornelis, SQL Server MVP
My SQL Server blog: http://sqlblog.com/blogs/hugo_kornelis|||On Jun 1, 2:31 pm, Hugo Kornelis
<h...@.perFact.REMOVETHIS.info.INVALID> wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 13:05:47 -0700, CalgaryDataGrl wrote:
> >I have a temp table that is populated elsewhere in the stored proc:
> >@.table
> > (
> > userid,
> > spec1,
> > spec2
> > )
> >Spec1 = specialization 1, Spec2 = specialization2
> >Each user has two specializations, and a number of associated skills
> >for that specialization in a table.
> >now I need to loop through this table, pulling out only one userid at
> >a time, for my final query that displays a bunch of other things. I
> >have a UDF that concatenates the string of values from the different
> >rows from the skill table so that it displays the skills as one list:
> >Specialization: DBA
> >Skills: SQL, Data Migration, etc.
> >How do I loop through the @.table to pull out only one userid at a
> >time, then do the insert to another @.secondtable, then loop back
> >through to get another userid'
> >Stacy
> Hi Stacy,
> Why would you want to loop?
> INSERT INTO SecondTable (UserID, ConcatSkillList)
> SELECT UserID, dbo.MyUDF(UserID)
> FROM FirstTable;
> --
> Hugo Kornelis, SQL Server MVP
> My SQL Server blog:http://sqlblog.com/blogs/hugo_kornelis- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
I need to loop because the first table holds just the specializations,
and I need to concatenate the x number of skills, my UDF can only take
one userid at a time...
CREATE FUNCTION dbo.udf_GetSkills(@.UserID int,@.specid int)
RETURNS VARCHAR(1000) AS
BEGIN
DECLARE @.SkillList varchar(1000)
SELECT @.SkillList = COALESCE(@.SkillList + ', ','') +
skill.skillname + ' (' + picklist.title + ')'
FROM candidate_skillsmatrix
inner join skill on skill.skillid = candidate_skillsmatrix.skillid
inner join specialization on specialization.specializationid =candidate_skillsmatrix.specid
inner join picklist on picklist.picklistid =candidate_skillsmatrix.expid
WHERE candidate_skillsmatrix.userid = @.UserID
and candidate_skillsmatrix.specid = @.specid
order by isrole desc, picklist.var3 desc,skillname
RETURN @.SkillList
END
This turns this:
userid1, spec 1, skill1
userid1, spec1, skill2
userid1, spec1, skill 3
userid2, spec1, skill1
userid2, spec1, skill2
into this:
userid 1, 'skill1, skill2, skill3'
when spec1 = @.spec1
and userid = @.userid
it works great when I've got only one userid, but I'm being given a
comma delimited list of values...|||On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 13:53:38 -0700, CalgaryDataGrl wrote:
>On Jun 1, 2:31 pm, Hugo Kornelis
><h...@.perFact.REMOVETHIS.info.INVALID> wrote:
(snip)
>> Why would you want to loop?
(snip)
>I need to loop because the first table holds just the specializations,
>and I need to concatenate the x number of skills, my UDF can only take
>one userid at a time...
Hi Stacy,
I still think that you don't need to loop. Looping is only very rarely
the correct solution in SQL Server. If you include a call to the UDF in
a query, the query engine will make sure that the query gets called as
often as needed.
However, for further help I reallly need to know how your tables and
data look. You have given some descriptions in English, but description
is real SQL code are much less prone to communication errors and
misunderstanding. Could you please post CREATE TABLE statements for all
tables used for this problem (irrelevant columns may be omitted, but
please do include all constraints, indexesm and properties!), some
INSERT statements with sample data, along with expected output? That
makes it much easier to help you.
>CREATE FUNCTION dbo.udf_GetSkills(@.UserID int,@.specid int)
>RETURNS VARCHAR(1000) AS
>BEGIN
> DECLARE @.SkillList varchar(1000)
> SELECT @.SkillList = COALESCE(@.SkillList + ', ','') +
>skill.skillname + ' (' + picklist.title + ')'
> FROM candidate_skillsmatrix
> inner join skill on skill.skillid = candidate_skillsmatrix.skillid
> inner join specialization on specialization.specializationid =>candidate_skillsmatrix.specid
> inner join picklist on picklist.picklistid =>candidate_skillsmatrix.expid
> WHERE candidate_skillsmatrix.userid = @.UserID
> and candidate_skillsmatrix.specid = @.specid
>order by isrole desc, picklist.var3 desc,skillname
> RETURN @.SkillList
>END
Just for the record - this method of string concatenation, though widely
used, is not documented, nor is it guaranteed to allways produce the
expected results. If you're on SQL Server 2005, you can use a trick with
the FOR XML options to concatenate the data (Google for it - let me know
if you fail to find it). In SQL Server 2000 and older versions, you have
no other choice but to use a cursor to loop over the rows to concatenate
them.
That is the main reason that most SQL Server experts will advice you to
do string concatenation on the front end instead of in the database.
>it works great when I've got only one userid, but I'm being given a
>comma delimited list of values...
As input? Containing the userids that you need to select? In that case,
you'll also need to read Erlands article:
http://www.sommarskog.se/arrays-in-sql.html
--
Hugo Kornelis, SQL Server MVP
My SQL Server blog: http://sqlblog.com/blogs/hugo_kornelis|||On 1 Jun, 21:53, CalgaryDataGrl <calgarydata...@.gmail.com> wrote:
> I need to loop because the first table holds just the specializations,
> and I need to concatenate the x number of skills, my UDF can only take
> one userid at a time...
>
That doesn't mean you need to loop. You just need to think about a
more set-based approach. BTW the method of concatenation you have used
in your proc is unsupported and unreliable. I don't recommend it.
Please post DDL, sample data and expected results if you need more
help. Also tell us what version of SQL Server you are using. Don't
expect a loop to be in the answer you get! :)
--
David Portas, SQL Server MVP
Whenever possible please post enough code to reproduce your problem.
Including CREATE TABLE and INSERT statements usually helps.
State what version of SQL Server you are using and specify the content
of any error messages.
SQL Server Books Online:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/library/ms130214(en-US,SQL.90).aspx
--|||"Hugo Kornelis" <hugo@.perFact.REMOVETHIS.info.INVALID> wrote in message
news:epm363p2bemo7f507rg2fhrsgm2chi0l77@.4ax.com...
> You have given some descriptions in English, but description
> is real SQL code are much less prone to communication errors and
> misunderstanding.
Hello Hugo,
An industry that expresses itself with at most grade school clarity
and you choose to reinforce it. This is why users get things to work
without the slightest understanding of what they are doing or why
things work. This is why I have called sql 'faith based'. Understanding
is replaced by faith. The ridiculous claim that sql is a religion
gains credence. Mentors should not be high priests. And this is why
I argue for application development based on science, relational.
best,
steve|||On 3 Jun, 00:25, "Steve Dassin" <s...@.nospamrac4sql.net> wrote:
> I argue for application development based on science, relational.
>
Naturally I agree:
http://blogs.conchango.com/davidportas/archive/2007/05/23/Relational-Futures.aspx
Meantime SQL is what we have so there's nothing wrong with what Hugo
said.
--
David Portas, SQL Server MVP
Whenever possible please post enough code to reproduce your problem.
Including CREATE TABLE and INSERT statements usually helps.
State what version of SQL Server you are using and specify the content
of any error messages.
SQL Server Books Online:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/library/ms130214(en-US,SQL.90).aspx
--|||"David Portas" <REMOVE_BEFORE_REPLYING_dportas@.acm.org> wrote in message
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> On 3 Jun, 00:25, "Steve Dassin" <s...@.nospamrac4sql.net> wrote:
>> I argue for application development based on science, relational.
> Naturally I agree:
> http://blogs.conchango.com/davidportas/archive/2007/05/23/Relational-Futures.aspx
'Once or twice I have floated the idea that a new relational database
language should be added to SQL Server as an alternative to the T-SQL
language. In my opinion the time is right for it.
What I'm talking about would be a relational language that lives up
to Date and Darwen's description of a "D" language.'
The 'D' language is already here! It is what Alphora has implemented
in Dataphor. Sql server can be used as the data repository and you
can freely communicate with it via pass-thru queries. The result
of such a query will be treated just like any other table variable
in D(4). If you understand query chunking you already know tactily how
the Dataphor server will work with Sql Server. The idea is to get the
performance of sql server and work with the logic of D.
Why wait for tomorrow when it is here today? -:)
www.alphora.com|||On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 16:25:54 -0700, Steve Dassin wrote:
>"Hugo Kornelis" <hugo@.perFact.REMOVETHIS.info.INVALID> wrote in message
>news:epm363p2bemo7f507rg2fhrsgm2chi0l77@.4ax.com...
>> You have given some descriptions in English, but description
>> is real SQL code are much less prone to communication errors and
>> misunderstanding.
>Hello Hugo,
>An industry that expresses itself with at most grade school clarity
>and you choose to reinforce it.
Hi Steve,
That's nonsense. Stacy posts a problem, and I choose to ask her to
restate it in an unambiguous language. And since both she and I use SQL
Server as our DB platform, T-SQL is the obvious choice of unambiguous
language.
Anything that you *think* I reinforce with that, is solely a figment of
your imagination. Maybe you should go back to just advertising Rac4Sql?
--
Hugo Kornelis, SQL Server MVP
My SQL Server blog: http://sqlblog.com/blogs/hugo_kornelis|||"Hugo Kornelis" <hugo@.perFact.REMOVETHIS.info.INVALID> wrote in message
news:tqj6635t8lo4dqdsr670n4jpgcl8mc2cht@.4ax.com...
>.
> Anything that you *think* I reinforce with that, is solely a figment of
> your imagination. Maybe you should go back to just advertising Rac4Sql?
>
You are an big advocate of sql and an expert. I am an sql
critic from a very clear point of view. That makes us adversaries.
Not children. Deal with it.
Here is a figment of mine that might serve as a reality check -:)
http://beyondsql.blogspot.com/2007/06/dataphor-string-differences-operator.html|||"David Portas" <REMOVE_BEFORE_REPLYING_dportas@.acm.org> wrote in message
news:1180862757.713232.103340@.q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>.
> http://blogs.conchango.com/davidportas/archive/2007/05/23/Relational-Futures.aspx
>.
'Naturally the new language would imply a new data model as well - the
relational data model instead of the SQL one - but I don't think it
would be difficult to build it on top of SQL Server's existing engine.'
Now I see where your coming from.
All your expertise, education and insight is secondary to your
allegience to MS. So much for your intellectual integrity, you
are, in the end, just another MS fanboy. MS see, David do.
Hypocrite.|||On 5 Jun, 21:01, "Steve Dassin" <s...@.nospamrac4sql.net> wrote:
> 'Naturally the new language would imply a new data model as well - the
> relational data model instead of the SQL one - but I don't think it
> would be difficult to build it on top of SQL Server's existing engine.'
> Now I see where your coming from.
> All your expertise, education and insight is secondary to your
> allegience to MS. So much for your intellectual integrity, you
> are, in the end, just another MS fanboy. MS see, David do.
> Hypocrite.
Nothing of the kind. I'm suggesting that Microsoft improve their
product by remedying some of its defficiencies. The hypocracy is
committed by those who advocate another commercial product while
accusing others who propose a Microsoft-based solution of lacking
intellectual integrity. My opinion of you just hit rock bottom I'm
afraid.
--
David Portas, SQL Server MVP
Whenever possible please post enough code to reproduce your problem.
Including CREATE TABLE and INSERT statements usually helps.
State what version of SQL Server you are using and specify the content
of any error messages.
SQL Server Books Online:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/library/ms130214(en-US,SQL.90).aspx
--

Looping through temp table to produce final result set

I have a temp table that is populated elsewhere in the stored proc:
@.table
(
userid,
spec1,
spec2
)
Spec1 = specialization 1, Spec2 = specialization2
Each user has two specializations, and a number of associated skills
for that specialization in a table.
now I need to loop through this table, pulling out only one userid at
a time, for my final query that displays a bunch of other things. I
have a UDF that concatenates the string of values from the different
rows from the skill table so that it displays the skills as one list:
Specialization: DBA
Skills: SQL, Data Migration, etc.
How do I loop through the @.table to pull out only one userid at a
time, then do the insert to another @.secondtable, then loop back
through to get another userid?
Stacy
On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 13:05:47 -0700, CalgaryDataGrl wrote:

>I have a temp table that is populated elsewhere in the stored proc:
>@.table
>(
> userid,
>spec1,
>spec2
> )
>
>Spec1 = specialization 1, Spec2 = specialization2
>Each user has two specializations, and a number of associated skills
>for that specialization in a table.
>now I need to loop through this table, pulling out only one userid at
>a time, for my final query that displays a bunch of other things. I
>have a UDF that concatenates the string of values from the different
>rows from the skill table so that it displays the skills as one list:
>Specialization: DBA
>Skills: SQL, Data Migration, etc.
>How do I loop through the @.table to pull out only one userid at a
>time, then do the insert to another @.secondtable, then loop back
>through to get another userid?
>Stacy
Hi Stacy,
Why would you want to loop?
INSERT INTO SecondTable (UserID, ConcatSkillList)
SELECT UserID, dbo.MyUDF(UserID)
FROM FirstTable;
Hugo Kornelis, SQL Server MVP
My SQL Server blog: http://sqlblog.com/blogs/hugo_kornelis
|||On Jun 1, 2:31 pm, Hugo Kornelis
<h...@.perFact.REMOVETHIS.info.INVALID> wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 13:05:47 -0700, CalgaryDataGrl wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Stacy,
> Why would you want to loop?
> INSERT INTO SecondTable (UserID, ConcatSkillList)
> SELECT UserID, dbo.MyUDF(UserID)
> FROM FirstTable;
> --
> Hugo Kornelis, SQL Server MVP
> My SQL Server blog:http://sqlblog.com/blogs/hugo_kornelis- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
I need to loop because the first table holds just the specializations,
and I need to concatenate the x number of skills, my UDF can only take
one userid at a time...
CREATE FUNCTION dbo.udf_GetSkills(@.UserID int,@.specid int)
RETURNS VARCHAR(1000) AS
BEGIN
DECLARE @.SkillList varchar(1000)
SELECT @.SkillList = COALESCE(@.SkillList + ', ','') +
skill.skillname + ' (' + picklist.title + ')'
FROM candidate_skillsmatrix
inner join skill on skill.skillid = candidate_skillsmatrix.skillid
inner join specialization on specialization.specializationid =
candidate_skillsmatrix.specid
inner join picklist on picklist.picklistid =
candidate_skillsmatrix.expid
WHERE candidate_skillsmatrix.userid = @.UserID
andcandidate_skillsmatrix.specid = @.specid
order by isrole desc, picklist.var3 desc,skillname
RETURN @.SkillList
END
This turns this:
userid1, spec 1, skill1
userid1, spec1, skill2
userid1, spec1, skill 3
userid2, spec1, skill1
userid2, spec1, skill2
into this:
userid 1, 'skill1, skill2, skill3'
when spec1 = @.spec1
and userid = @.userid
it works great when I've got only one userid, but I'm being given a
comma delimited list of values...
|||On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 13:53:38 -0700, CalgaryDataGrl wrote:

>On Jun 1, 2:31 pm, Hugo Kornelis
><h...@.perFact.REMOVETHIS.info.INVALID> wrote:
(snip)[vbcol=seagreen]
(snip)
>I need to loop because the first table holds just the specializations,
>and I need to concatenate the x number of skills, my UDF can only take
>one userid at a time...
Hi Stacy,
I still think that you don't need to loop. Looping is only very rarely
the correct solution in SQL Server. If you include a call to the UDF in
a query, the query engine will make sure that the query gets called as
often as needed.
However, for further help I reallly need to know how your tables and
data look. You have given some descriptions in English, but description
is real SQL code are much less prone to communication errors and
misunderstanding. Could you please post CREATE TABLE statements for all
tables used for this problem (irrelevant columns may be omitted, but
please do include all constraints, indexesm and properties!), some
INSERT statements with sample data, along with expected output? That
makes it much easier to help you.

>CREATE FUNCTION dbo.udf_GetSkills(@.UserID int,@.specid int)
>RETURNS VARCHAR(1000) AS
>BEGIN
> DECLARE @.SkillList varchar(1000)
> SELECT @.SkillList = COALESCE(@.SkillList + ', ','') +
>skill.skillname + ' (' + picklist.title + ')'
> FROM candidate_skillsmatrix
>inner join skill on skill.skillid = candidate_skillsmatrix.skillid
>inner join specialization on specialization.specializationid =
>candidate_skillsmatrix.specid
>inner join picklist on picklist.picklistid =
>candidate_skillsmatrix.expid
> WHERE candidate_skillsmatrix.userid = @.UserID
>andcandidate_skillsmatrix.specid = @.specid
>order by isrole desc, picklist.var3 desc,skillname
> RETURN @.SkillList
>END
Just for the record - this method of string concatenation, though widely
used, is not documented, nor is it guaranteed to allways produce the
expected results. If you're on SQL Server 2005, you can use a trick with
the FOR XML options to concatenate the data (Google for it - let me know
if you fail to find it). In SQL Server 2000 and older versions, you have
no other choice but to use a cursor to loop over the rows to concatenate
them.
That is the main reason that most SQL Server experts will advice you to
do string concatenation on the front end instead of in the database.

>it works great when I've got only one userid, but I'm being given a
>comma delimited list of values...
As input? Containing the userids that you need to select? In that case,
you'll also need to read Erlands article:
http://www.sommarskog.se/arrays-in-sql.html
Hugo Kornelis, SQL Server MVP
My SQL Server blog: http://sqlblog.com/blogs/hugo_kornelis
|||On 1 Jun, 21:53, CalgaryDataGrl <calgarydata...@.gmail.com> wrote:
> I need to loop because the first table holds just the specializations,
> and I need to concatenate the x number of skills, my UDF can only take
> one userid at a time...
>
That doesn't mean you need to loop. You just need to think about a
more set-based approach. BTW the method of concatenation you have used
in your proc is unsupported and unreliable. I don't recommend it.
Please post DDL, sample data and expected results if you need more
help. Also tell us what version of SQL Server you are using. Don't
expect a loop to be in the answer you get!
David Portas, SQL Server MVP
Whenever possible please post enough code to reproduce your problem.
Including CREATE TABLE and INSERT statements usually helps.
State what version of SQL Server you are using and specify the content
of any error messages.
SQL Server Books Online:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/library/ms130214(en-US,SQL.90).aspx
|||"Hugo Kornelis" <hugo@.perFact.REMOVETHIS.info.INVALID> wrote in message
news:epm363p2bemo7f507rg2fhrsgm2chi0l77@.4ax.com...
> You have given some descriptions in English, but description
> is real SQL code are much less prone to communication errors and
> misunderstanding.
Hello Hugo,
An industry that expresses itself with at most grade school clarity
and you choose to reinforce it. This is why users get things to work
without the slightest understanding of what they are doing or why
things work. This is why I have called sql 'faith based'. Understanding
is replaced by faith. The ridiculous claim that sql is a religion
gains credence. Mentors should not be high priests. And this is why
I argue for application development based on science, relational.
best,
steve
|||On 3 Jun, 00:25, "Steve Dassin" <s...@.nospamrac4sql.net> wrote:
> I argue for application development based on science, relational.
>
Naturally I agree:
http://blogs.conchango.com/davidportas/archive/2007/05/23/Relational-Futures.aspx
Meantime SQL is what we have so there's nothing wrong with what Hugo
said.
David Portas, SQL Server MVP
Whenever possible please post enough code to reproduce your problem.
Including CREATE TABLE and INSERT statements usually helps.
State what version of SQL Server you are using and specify the content
of any error messages.
SQL Server Books Online:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/library/ms130214(en-US,SQL.90).aspx
|||"David Portas" <REMOVE_BEFORE_REPLYING_dportas@.acm.org> wrote in message
news:1180862757.713232.103340@.q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
> On 3 Jun, 00:25, "Steve Dassin" <s...@.nospamrac4sql.net> wrote:
> Naturally I agree:
> http://blogs.conchango.com/davidportas/archive/2007/05/23/Relational-Futures.aspx
'Once or twice I have floated the idea that a new relational database
language should be added to SQL Server as an alternative to the T-SQL
language. In my opinion the time is right for it.
What I'm talking about would be a relational language that lives up
to Date and Darwen's description of a "D" language.'
The 'D' language is already here! It is what Alphora has implemented
in Dataphor. Sql server can be used as the data repository and you
can freely communicate with it via pass-thru queries. The result
of such a query will be treated just like any other table variable
in D(4). If you understand query chunking you already know tactily how
the Dataphor server will work with Sql Server. The idea is to get the
performance of sql server and work with the logic of D.
Why wait for tomorrow when it is here today? -
www.alphora.com
|||On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 16:25:54 -0700, Steve Dassin wrote:

>"Hugo Kornelis" <hugo@.perFact.REMOVETHIS.info.INVALID> wrote in message
>news:epm363p2bemo7f507rg2fhrsgm2chi0l77@.4ax.com.. .
>Hello Hugo,
>An industry that expresses itself with at most grade school clarity
>and you choose to reinforce it.
Hi Steve,
That's nonsense. Stacy posts a problem, and I choose to ask her to
restate it in an unambiguous language. And since both she and I use SQL
Server as our DB platform, T-SQL is the obvious choice of unambiguous
language.
Anything that you *think* I reinforce with that, is solely a figment of
your imagination. Maybe you should go back to just advertising Rac4Sql?
Hugo Kornelis, SQL Server MVP
My SQL Server blog: http://sqlblog.com/blogs/hugo_kornelis
|||"Hugo Kornelis" <hugo@.perFact.REMOVETHIS.info.INVALID> wrote in message
news:tqj6635t8lo4dqdsr670n4jpgcl8mc2cht@.4ax.com...
>.
> Anything that you *think* I reinforce with that, is solely a figment of
> your imagination. Maybe you should go back to just advertising Rac4Sql?
>
You are an big advocate of sql and an expert. I am an sql
critic from a very clear point of view. That makes us adversaries.
Not children. Deal with it.
Here is a figment of mine that might serve as a reality check -
http://beyondsql.blogspot.com/2007/06/dataphor-string-differences-operator.html
sql

Looping through temp table to produce final result set

I have a temp table that is populated elsewhere in the stored proc:
@.table
(
userid,
spec1,
spec2
)
Spec1 = specialization 1, Spec2 = specialization2
Each user has two specializations, and a number of associated skills
for that specialization in a table.
now I need to loop through this table, pulling out only one userid at
a time, for my final query that displays a bunch of other things. I
have a UDF that concatenates the string of values from the different
rows from the skill table so that it displays the skills as one list:
Specialization: DBA
Skills: SQL, Data Migration, etc.
How do I loop through the @.table to pull out only one userid at a
time, then do the insert to another @.secondtable, then loop back
through to get another userid'
StacyOn Fri, 01 Jun 2007 13:05:47 -0700, CalgaryDataGrl wrote:

>I have a temp table that is populated elsewhere in the stored proc:
>@.table
> (
> userid,
> spec1,
> spec2
> )
>
>Spec1 = specialization 1, Spec2 = specialization2
>Each user has two specializations, and a number of associated skills
>for that specialization in a table.
>now I need to loop through this table, pulling out only one userid at
>a time, for my final query that displays a bunch of other things. I
>have a UDF that concatenates the string of values from the different
>rows from the skill table so that it displays the skills as one list:
>Specialization: DBA
>Skills: SQL, Data Migration, etc.
>How do I loop through the @.table to pull out only one userid at a
>time, then do the insert to another @.secondtable, then loop back
>through to get another userid'
>Stacy
Hi Stacy,
Why would you want to loop?
INSERT INTO SecondTable (UserID, ConcatSkillList)
SELECT UserID, dbo.MyUDF(UserID)
FROM FirstTable;
Hugo Kornelis, SQL Server MVP
My SQL Server blog: http://sqlblog.com/blogs/hugo_kornelis|||On Jun 1, 2:31 pm, Hugo Kornelis
<h...@.perFact.REMOVETHIS.info.INVALID> wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 13:05:47 -0700, CalgaryDataGrl wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Stacy,
> Why would you want to loop?
> INSERT INTO SecondTable (UserID, ConcatSkillList)
> SELECT UserID, dbo.MyUDF(UserID)
> FROM FirstTable;
> --
> Hugo Kornelis, SQL Server MVP
> My SQL Server blog:http://sqlblog.com/blogs/hugo_kornelis- Hide quoted tex
t -
> - Show quoted text -
I need to loop because the first table holds just the specializations,
and I need to concatenate the x number of skills, my UDF can only take
one userid at a time...
CREATE FUNCTION dbo.udf_GetSkills(@.UserID int,@.specid int)
RETURNS VARCHAR(1000) AS
BEGIN
DECLARE @.SkillList varchar(1000)
SELECT @.SkillList = COALESCE(@.SkillList + ', ','') +
skill.skillname + ' (' + picklist.title + ')'
FROM candidate_skillsmatrix
inner join skill on skill.skillid = candidate_skillsmatrix.skillid
inner join specialization on specialization.specializationid =
candidate_skillsmatrix.specid
inner join picklist on picklist.picklistid =
candidate_skillsmatrix.expid
WHERE candidate_skillsmatrix.userid = @.UserID
and candidate_skillsmatrix.specid = @.specid
order by isrole desc, picklist.var3 desc,skillname
RETURN @.SkillList
END
This turns this:
userid1, spec 1, skill1
userid1, spec1, skill2
userid1, spec1, skill 3
userid2, spec1, skill1
userid2, spec1, skill2
into this:
userid 1, 'skill1, skill2, skill3'
when spec1 = @.spec1
and userid = @.userid
it works great when I've got only one userid, but I'm being given a
comma delimited list of values...|||On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 13:53:38 -0700, CalgaryDataGrl wrote:

>On Jun 1, 2:31 pm, Hugo Kornelis
><h...@.perFact.REMOVETHIS.info.INVALID> wrote:
(snip)
(snip)[vbcol=seagreen]
>I need to loop because the first table holds just the specializations,
>and I need to concatenate the x number of skills, my UDF can only take
>one userid at a time...
Hi Stacy,
I still think that you don't need to loop. Looping is only very rarely
the correct solution in SQL Server. If you include a call to the UDF in
a query, the query engine will make sure that the query gets called as
often as needed.
However, for further help I reallly need to know how your tables and
data look. You have given some descriptions in English, but description
is real SQL code are much less prone to communication errors and
misunderstanding. Could you please post CREATE TABLE statements for all
tables used for this problem (irrelevant columns may be omitted, but
please do include all constraints, indexesm and properties!), some
INSERT statements with sample data, along with expected output? That
makes it much easier to help you.

>CREATE FUNCTION dbo.udf_GetSkills(@.UserID int,@.specid int)
>RETURNS VARCHAR(1000) AS
>BEGIN
> DECLARE @.SkillList varchar(1000)
> SELECT @.SkillList = COALESCE(@.SkillList + ', ','') +
>skill.skillname + ' (' + picklist.title + ')'
> FROM candidate_skillsmatrix
> inner join skill on skill.skillid = candidate_skillsmatrix.skillid
> inner join specialization on specialization.specializationid =
>candidate_skillsmatrix.specid
> inner join picklist on picklist.picklistid =
>candidate_skillsmatrix.expid
> WHERE candidate_skillsmatrix.userid = @.UserID
> and candidate_skillsmatrix.specid = @.specid
>order by isrole desc, picklist.var3 desc,skillname
> RETURN @.SkillList
>END
Just for the record - this method of string concatenation, though widely
used, is not documented, nor is it guaranteed to allways produce the
expected results. If you're on SQL Server 2005, you can use a trick with
the FOR XML options to concatenate the data (Google for it - let me know
if you fail to find it). In SQL Server 2000 and older versions, you have
no other choice but to use a cursor to loop over the rows to concatenate
them.
That is the main reason that most SQL Server experts will advice you to
do string concatenation on the front end instead of in the database.

>it works great when I've got only one userid, but I'm being given a
>comma delimited list of values...
As input? Containing the userids that you need to select? In that case,
you'll also need to read Erlands article:
http://www.sommarskog.se/arrays-in-sql.html
Hugo Kornelis, SQL Server MVP
My SQL Server blog: http://sqlblog.com/blogs/hugo_kornelis|||On 1 Jun, 21:53, CalgaryDataGrl <calgarydata...@.gmail.com> wrote:
> I need to loop because the first table holds just the specializations,
> and I need to concatenate the x number of skills, my UDF can only take
> one userid at a time...
>
That doesn't mean you need to loop. You just need to think about a
more set-based approach. BTW the method of concatenation you have used
in your proc is unsupported and unreliable. I don't recommend it.
Please post DDL, sample data and expected results if you need more
help. Also tell us what version of SQL Server you are using. Don't
expect a loop to be in the answer you get!
David Portas, SQL Server MVP
Whenever possible please post enough code to reproduce your problem.
Including CREATE TABLE and INSERT statements usually helps.
State what version of SQL Server you are using and specify the content
of any error messages.
SQL Server Books Online:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/library/ms130214(en-US,SQL.90).aspx
--|||"Hugo Kornelis" <hugo@.perFact.REMOVETHIS.info.INVALID> wrote in message
news:epm363p2bemo7f507rg2fhrsgm2chi0l77@.
4ax.com...
> You have given some descriptions in English, but description
> is real SQL code are much less prone to communication errors and
> misunderstanding.
Hello Hugo,
An industry that expresses itself with at most grade school clarity
and you choose to reinforce it. This is why users get things to work
without the slightest understanding of what they are doing or why
things work. This is why I have called sql 'faith based'. Understanding
is replaced by faith. The ridiculous claim that sql is a religion
gains credence. Mentors should not be high priests. And this is why
I argue for application development based on science, relational.
best,
steve|||On 3 Jun, 00:25, "Steve Dassin" <s...@.nospamrac4sql.net> wrote:
> I argue for application development based on science, relational.
>
Naturally I agree:
http://blogs.conchango.com/davidpor...ibrary/ms130214(en-US,SQL.90).aspx
--|||"David Portas" <REMOVE_BEFORE_REPLYING_dportas@.acm.org> wrote in message
news:1180862757.713232.103340@.q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> On 3 Jun, 00:25, "Steve Dassin" <s...@.nospamrac4sql.net> wrote:
> Naturally I agree:
> http://blogs.conchango.com/davidpor...al-Futures.aspx[
/vbcol]
'Once or twice I have floated the idea that a new relational database
language should be added to SQL Server as an alternative to the T-SQL
language. In my opinion the time is right for it.
What I'm talking about would be a relational language that lives up
to Date and Darwen's description of a "D" language.'
The 'D' language is already here! It is what Alphora has implemented
in Dataphor. Sql server can be used as the data repository and you
can freely communicate with it via pass-thru queries. The result
of such a query will be treated just like any other table variable
in D(4). If you understand query chunking you already know tactily how
the Dataphor server will work with Sql Server. The idea is to get the
performance of sql server and work with the logic of D.
Why wait for tomorrow when it is here today? -
www.alphora.com|||On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 16:25:54 -0700, Steve Dassin wrote:

>"Hugo Kornelis" <hugo@.perFact.REMOVETHIS.info.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:epm363p2bemo7f507rg2fhrsgm2chi0l77@.
4ax.com...
>Hello Hugo,
>An industry that expresses itself with at most grade school clarity
>and you choose to reinforce it.
Hi Steve,
That's nonsense. Stacy posts a problem, and I choose to ask her to
restate it in an unambiguous language. And since both she and I use SQL
Server as our DB platform, T-SQL is the obvious choice of unambiguous
language.
Anything that you *think* I reinforce with that, is solely a figment of
your imagination. Maybe you should go back to just advertising Rac4Sql?
Hugo Kornelis, SQL Server MVP
My SQL Server blog: http://sqlblog.com/blogs/hugo_kornelis|||"Hugo Kornelis" <hugo@.perFact.REMOVETHIS.info.INVALID> wrote in message
news:tqj6635t8lo4dqdsr670n4jpgcl8mc2cht@.
4ax.com...
>.
> Anything that you *think* I reinforce with that, is solely a figment of
> your imagination. Maybe you should go back to just advertising Rac4Sql?
>
You are an big advocate of sql and an expert. I am an sql
critic from a very clear point of view. That makes us adversaries.
Not children. Deal with it.
Here is a figment of mine that might serve as a reality check -
[url]http://beyondsql.blogspot.com/2007/06/dataphor-string-differences-operator.html[/u
rl]